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No, it won't look like this when it's finished!



The meters will be set in the front panel and the blue coloured pot shafts will be set back inside, with only the "screwdriver" slot visible adjacent each meter.

This design feature is no gimmick! It enables the user of this amplifier to adjust it to deliver its best, whatever the supply voltage variance.

The meters also double as "VU meters" - use them as you feel fit.

This long journey has seen all kinds of issues raised as how to obtain the best audible and measured performance out of a 6 transistors per channel power amp.

That's 6 transistors taking a sub-1 volt input signal and delivering 42 watts into 8 ohms (per channel).

Its audible performance is now pretty damn good, and as for measurements, they don't tell us much (and never have!)

Now it is time to pre-productionize the amplifier.
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The Meters and the Maths

Bob Cordell's modified SPICE models for the MJL21193 and MJL21194 output transistors gives slightly different betas (BF) and adds base resistance (RB).

This makes it possible to calculate the quiescent voltage (Vq) reasonably accurately.

The exact figure would have to be arrived at through iteration, but here we are talking about fractions of a millivolt which, even if we could set the voltage to, would be ephemeral due to minute changes in ambient temperature, and tiny mains voltage variations.

Estimating 60mA quiescent current in the output stage and betas of 70 (NPN) and 110 (PNP), the base current will be 0.86mA (NPN) and 0.55mA (PNP).

Considering the NPN upper EF2, the driver has half the resistance of the inter-emitter resistor (0.5 x 220R), and 0.625V is dropped across it, which is 5.7mA (this will be the same for the PNP lower EF2).

Now add the bias: 5.7 + 0.86 = 6.56.

The emitter resistance of the upper driver will be the thermal voltage divided by the current: 26mV/6.56 = 4 ohms.

Cordell gives MJL21194 base resistance as 3.4 ohms, to which we add 4 ohms to give a total input resistance of 7.4 ohms.

This is then divided by the beta: 7.4/70 = 0.106 ohms

This appears in series with the real emitter resistance of 0R33 making 0.436 ohms, and for 26mV to appear across it, then 59.63mA will need to flow.

This is extremely close to the estimated 60mA.

Multiplying 59.63mA by 0R33 ohms, we find the optimum voltage is 19.7 mV.

Considering the PNP lower EF2, we know from above the driver current is 5.7mA. The power transistor base current is 0.55mA, making a total quiescent driver current of 6.25mA.

The driver's thermal voltage is 26mV, so 26mV/6.25mA = 4.16 ohms.

Cordell gives base resistance as 2 ohms, to which we add 4.16 to give 6.16 ohms.

This is divided by the beta of 110 to give 0.056 ohms, which is added to the real emitter resistor value of 0R33 to give 0R386 ohms.

If 26mV is developed across 0R386, then 67.4mA must be flowing. Obviously, it cannot if the upper NPN has 59.63mA.

But continuing, 67.4mA x 0R33 = 22.23 mV.

This difference is noted by Oliver as beta difference distortion, but there is little we can do to compensate for it, except to average out the resulting voltages and adjust the meters to read the average.

(19.7 + 22.23) / 2 = 20.965 mV.

By setting the meter midway between 20 and 22 gradations we approximate the correct quiescent voltage (Vq).

It should be noted that this is the meter reading with the amplifier at a steady comfortable room temperature of say between 20 and 27 C.

The amplifier should have been left to settle for several hours before the final adjustment.

It will be noted that if ambient temperature changes by a few degrees the meters will indicate a variation of about +/- 1mV; and if the amplifier is left a long time under no-signal conditions, the meter will indicate a graduation low.

The images below show the distortion products when setting to the above approximation.

Amplifier Vq meter

Microamp meter indicating millivolts of quiescent voltage


Distortion Product Ratio Left

1/3rd Watt output channel A



Distortion Product Ratio Right

1/3rd watt channel B


FFT Trace 1 Watt 8 ohms 1kHz

1 watt 1kHz output


FFT Distortion Trace Third of a watt at 1kHz

1/3rd watt 1kHz output


FFT Trace 1 Watt 8 ohms 5kHz

1 watt 5kHz output


FFT Distortion Trace Third of a watt at 5kHz

1/3rd watt 5kHz output


Edited by Graham Slee - 21 Feb 2020 at 2:36pm
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Those are great distortion readings! Wink
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The less than optimum matching exhibited by beta differences between the MJL21193 and MJL21194 output transistors meant that exact quiescent voltage was unable to be set.

The importance of quiescent voltage must not be underestimated as it has a more direct effect on sound quality than most other distortions.

Taking note of Bob Cordell's comment:

"one must also bear in mind that the internal resistances and betas of the PNP and NPN output transistors may not be the same, in some cases possibly calling for slightly different optimal values of emitter resistors top and bottom."

(https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid-state/105934-biasing-thermal-compensation-thermal-trak-transistors-14.html)

Hopefully I have calculated in the right direction (sometimes I can get things wrong), and reducing the upper emitter resistor to 0R27 makes the quiescent voltage the same for both halves.

The real proof will be in how it sounds, and I will report back after a number of days of use.
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Nope! Wrong. It's the other way up. Lower emitter resistor reduces to 0R27.

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I was about to write about optimising class AB output stage bias, but decided to do some further tests to support it. Surprisingly I found that class B bias gave the best test results, and all class AB did was to pronounce upper odd-harmonics - the ones which cause listening fatigue.

True, overall distortion rose to 0.2% THD 1kHz at half a watt, but mainly second order with the third much lower. At full output (42 watts) 1kHz THD fell to 0.05%.

Listening to it now, it sounds quite nice/less distorted on highs. The largest improvement looks to have been balancing up the upper and lower devices by altering the PNP transistor's emitter resistor (to 0R27).

Class B bias is where the emitter resistor voltages fall below 13mV (Oliver's criterion). It is now set at 8 to 9 mV.
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Running the amplifier with substantial local negative feedback around the voltage amplifier means there is little to correct for non-linearities in the output stage.

It could be argued that with greater than 100% negative feedback, the EF2 output stage ought to be linear enough, but as Self has illustrated, series feedback from RE and re, is not very effective at cancelling distortion.

Not having the voltage gain of a modern configuration, the loop-gain at high frequencies is falling, and roughly only 12dB at 20kHz.

With RE quiescent voltage at 13 to 26 mV, high order distortion is present and can be clearly seen on the FFT trace.

Reduced to 8mV, high order distortion is reduced, but second harmonic is increased, which makes the THD figure worse.

Listening tests however, suggest this is far more palatable because sibilance is vastly reduced, or non-evident, and with electrolytics not having to handle masses of high frequency distortion, the sound with amplifier permanently switched on, has not deteriorated.

The thermal stability is good as witnessed by the almost constant meter readings under quiescent conditions. These can vary upwards to around 9mV, and down to 7mV at room temperatures between 23 and 27 C.

0.5mV per degree C is roughly the difference between diode tempco (1.6mV/C) and transistor tempco (2.1mV/C), with diodes operating with about 7mA DC current. This is what is generally expected, and if matched quiescently, might not do all that well under dynamic conditions due to heatsink thermal lag.

To my enquiring mind I would like to understand why 8mV quiescent gives best audible results, when Oliver's criterion states 13 - 26 mV (at 27C).

Self states 26mV is correct with 0.1 ohm emitter resistors. Cordell allows more flexibility based on transistor beta and base resistance, but still insists these must sum to 26mV. Oliver suggested 13mV to 26mV.

Perhaps with the large loop-gains of the modern configurations this works, and obviously does because Self and Cordell are respectable and respected designers.

Perhaps the missing trick is the large loop gain, and that simply will not happen in this retro design, and therefore we must be satisfied that 8mV is the correct value.
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