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I probably said this before but my feelings on the current vinyl trend are mixed. Frankly I'm waiting for the mainstream portion of it to die down a bit, which I think is going to happen. Remember Beanie Babies, comic books, and baseball cards? All those things went through trends with market prices being severely inflated until they crashed. 

I said this elsewhere but you can already see mainstream shops in the U.S. like mall stores, B&N, and Amazon reducing their vinyl stock or doing liquidation. 

I think when the dust settles, vinyl will be back to a thing for audiophiles, music nerds, record collectors, etc. and fans of niche genres that have done well on vinyl over the years. I also think when the fad of half-baked popular reissues on colored vinyl and such dies down we'll get better quality pressings overall with less of the problems that have been an issue recently like off-center, factory warps, non-fill, etc. 
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Agreed. It does have the symptoms of a fad. I think that CDs are also on the way out eventually. Streaming is so easy and convenient that I think it will continue to grow as the primary source of music and develop with more Hi Res options. That's how both my children listen to music.

Personally I prefer vinyl to any other format and I am very happy about the current situation since there are so many good LPs being produced.

I listen to Hi Res PCM and DSD files on my computer as background to whatever tasks I am doing online but digital still doesn't make me as happy as vinyl.
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Some of the recent LPs I've bought have sounded poor & will do the reputation of records no good at all,
but LP SQ always did vary widely. When at its best it is unbeatable.
I hope CD stays around for a lot longer. Ironically CD sound has really matured now -
just as some are trying to kill it off, as many tried to kill off Vinyl in the 80s & 90s.



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I am old enough to have started out with records, cassette tapes and even briefly 8 track before embracing CDs. As you know the early CDs were horrible but to me they sounded great at the time. I got caught up in all the enthusiasm for the new technology. I moved to SACD, XRCD etc looking for better sound and was quite happy for a while. It wasn't until about 10 years ago that I got back into vinyl.

Some CDs do sound quite good but at least for me I find them a bit fatiguing after a while. I have uploaded my collection to my computer.

I can only speak from personal experience and possibly it would have been different with better equipment.
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Originally posted by RichW RichW wrote:

Some of the recent LPs I've bought have sounded poor & will do the reputation of records no good at all,
but LP SQ always did vary widely. When at its best it is unbeatable.
I hope CD stays around for a lot longer. Ironically CD sound has really matured now -
just as some are trying to kill it off, as many tried to kill off Vinyl in the 80s & 90s.


CD has already been severely cut back due to flagging sales. I suspect this will continue until CD becomes a niche format, which it kind of already is right now. Majors and even indies have already been cutting back on CD releases and reissues. I still like the format and will continue to play it no matter what. I have over 4,000 of them and still buy new and used CDs on a regular basis. 
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Originally posted by kgilroy kgilroy wrote:

I am old enough to have started out with records, cassette tapes and even briefly 8 track before embracing CDs. As you know the early CDs were horrible but to me they sounded great at the time. I got caught up in all the enthusiasm for the new technology. I moved to SACD, XRCD etc looking for better sound and was quite happy for a while. It wasn't until about 10 years ago that I got back into vinyl.

Some CDs do sound quite good but at least for me I find them a bit fatiguing after a while. I have uploaded my collection to my computer.

I can only speak from personal experience and possibly it would have been different with better equipment.

CD is very much a case by case thing. The overall sound of a CD will depend greatly on the quality of the original recording, what source was used, and how it was mastered. Just like with LP - there are horrible sounding pressings and good sounding pressings of any given album that's been pressed up a truckload of times. 

I have ripped a large portion of my collection to FLAC but I still prefer playing the physical discs when I can, for purely subjective reasons. 
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I prefer vinyl to CD if I have an option. Some of that is because of the poor quality of many early CDs, some because I grew of with vinyl and there's some nostalgia involved, but much of it is that to my ear it often sounds better. As I said before, I prefer physical formats partly due to the greater "connection" to the music. Even preferring vinyl, I have hundreds of CDs and will buy a CD over files if an album is not available on vinyl. I have ripped my CD collection to FLAC for those times when I am away from home or the convenience of setting up a playlist for background music. In these cases, I use my Mac mini and Audirvana to play my music files.
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