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Advice on MM Cartridge Decision

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2016 at 9:51am
Yes it would but then I'd possibly need a heavier balance weight at the other end. I could have a chat with P******t retailers about the appropriate weight, so all would not be lost but it does seem a bit of a Heath Robinson job. I'd rather use a cart that offers a good match.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote morris_minor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2016 at 10:09am
Using the Soundsmith bolts - of which four sets are supplied with varying weight - doesn't necessarily mean you need a heavier counter weight. Also if your arm has a detachable headshell (which the p******t doesn't of course!) you can select the weight of a headshell to achieve the same thing. It just allows use of a wider range of cartridges.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2016 at 4:04pm
Good suggestion, Bob. I'm going to put more hours into my replacement 2M Black before I make any decisions. If I change cart again I fear my wife will go spare but £500 is a lot to spend on a cart if I don't get on with it. We'll see how we go :)
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I hope you get your sound sorted, Paul!
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After a few more listening sessions I was still no closer to a decision.  The problem, as usual, was my brain.  During the listening sessions I was really enjoying the sound.  Everything was clear and well defined and sounded pretty beautiful for want of a more accurate phrase.  The problem was after the record had stopped spinning and I was putting it away a little voice in my head kept saying 'don't you think it sounded a bit thin'.  That made me doubt my judgement a little, and there was always the thought that the IQ1 might sound even better.

In the end I got fed up and decided to do an accuracy comparison.  I have just bought a shiny new LP which came with a CD copy of the same album.  So I thought I would listen to the LP and then go straight on to the CD and see how they compared.  The theory is, as it was related to me, that CDs being digital cannot be reproduced inaccurately and are less prone to colouration and as such make a good datum sample to compare vinyl playback to.  

The LP sounded marvellous.  I enjoyed it so much that when I went to repeat the first track for the comparison (as it was the track that I know the best so I wanted it fresh in my mind) I ended up listening to the whole LP a second time.  The CD on the other hand was hugely disappointing in comparison.  It didn't sound half as good.  The sound stage sounded practically two dimensional, bass was less well defined, treble was also lacking, and the whole thing sounded constrained and jumbled.  I started getting fed up with it half way through.  And it wasn't because it was my third playthrough of the album, because I was still humming it for most of the rest of the day.

So if my record deck sounds so much better than my CD player and I enjoy listening to it, what on earth do I think is wrong with it?   The little doubting voice in my head is now in a pretty unsupportable position and so in conclusion I think I am going to be sticking with the Audio Technica AT150MLX.  This little experiment is also another nail in the coffin of the ifi iTube - I swear my CD player sounded far more capable before I added this thing in to the chain.  And considering it has filters that are meant to improve sound staging and definition I don't think it is really living up to the hype.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Drewan77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2016 at 11:08pm
I'm glad it worked out Scott & I was able help you, I loved that cartridge & it's a great match for the Audiomods V. A nicely written summary too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richardl60 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2016 at 7:31am
Hi interesting comments. Two quick observations.

It is sometimes useful to have a CD comparison but would never assume either cd or vinyl is the benchmark. Both will suffer variations in recordings/mastering a/pressings etc and unless you are spending shed loads of money unlikely to be hearing CD at its best for example.

Secondly if you like the overall sound but is a little thin you may be able to subtly change the sound with cables, loading etc. May be one to persevere with?
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