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Is High End dying?
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    Posted: 23 Oct 2020 at 2:21am
 After just reading through this entire interesting thread I think @hotmog has hit the nail on the head with his response. 

I also believe the well-to-do will buy the products that look to be expensive and there will manufacturers willing to make those products to fill that desire, not that they are necessarily that much “better” than less costly products. Some of the materials may be more exotic and costly but the limited production volume surely also adds to the cost.
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Originally posted by Ash Ash wrote:

...focus on what is actually important: How it sounds??
 

Which is WHY we try to focus on WHAT does a better job of it: Digitally sent through the airwaves; Chopped and topped-and-tailed and put on CD [Re: Winning The Loudness Wars] OR NOT MINDING to have to get up and select what record [or, damn it, CD] and sit back down to "enjoy the recorded bit we can listen to that sounds like the 'live event' ". 

CAN the one's who can AFFORD the High End gear GOT the ears to appreciate it? I don't think so. 
What audiophile gets to own a "Stereo" that he/she is really happy with and WAS able to afford it? 
Is it because of the frequency bandwidth that vinyl recordings give us, the reason why so many are turning back to it and enjoying what they are hearing? Many Younger ones [with GOOD hearing] are liking what they hear... Maybe Hi-End is being 'shunned' by the mass's who are quite happy with the New and Highly Convenient [plus more affordable at the same time] "way" you can GET music at the Present time...? 

Thankfully, also there will be the one's that frequent a website/forum like this one in the Quest for "that sound" that makes your hair stand on end coming from good equipment/electronics that people who are passionate about what they do, make. And you can talk to the guy who makes it. Worth a heck of a lot, that money can't touch, to get a hold of. But it's right here! 

While you have the rich and the poor, you'll always have a High End. 

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Graham, by the way things have been going, you won't getting a pension until you're in your 70s... Confused I think the governments are trying to tell older people something... And I better not get started on Criminal's Rights otherwise I won't stop.

As for needless gimmicks on audio products such as IR remote controls, why would you want them?? More electromagnetic radiation making the job harder than it needs to be. What's wrong with switches on the product that are set and then left? I like to keep things simple so I can focus on what is actually important: How it sounds??
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Hi UKMach, trust me to get it out of context... Embarrassed

Yes, convenience does have it! True high-end audio is highly inconvenient. Even remote controlled volume control electronics (the ones that drive motor-pots) put interference on the signal, yet some consider products with remotes as being high-end.

It's at times like this I regret not having a nice big pension pot...
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Is High End dying?

Well, if you mean highest fidelity audio reproduction then yes, it's certainly on its way there.

But Graham Slee is still here in the meantime so get it whilst you can because once it's gone, it is well and truly gone.
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My apologies, what I was referring to was in regards to comparison of the Arcam CD player to the popcorn hour.  They are both at different levels in terms of sound quality but the media streamer having the convience of all my music in one place as opposed to having to get up, find a CD and then listen to music.  I guess what I was trying to say is that I find my self evolving towards streamers these days but also still hang onto my CD player for the love of the sound.  Incidently Ive actually come to your forums to look at your coax cd cable for my CD player to see if this can improve upon this and to hear what it can sound like


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Originally posted by UKMach UKMach wrote:

The convience of this is now starting to out weigh its deficits in audio quality, although still sounds good, namely having the ability to create a jukebox...


Welcome to our forum, but regarding the above comment, maybe this isn't the place to be?
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