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I've been using Daft Punk's Touch (from Random Access Memories) - to a lesser system the opening can sound like an awful hash of electronic noise but with a good system it really opens out and you can hear into the music in a way which is quite beguiling - try the first 3mins before the music gets going... 

Another track off this album I enjoy as a test track is Giorgio by Moroder, both because I like to hear how realistic his voice sounds during the opening narration and then (don't judge!) the sound of the click he describes :-)  On a lesser system it sounds flat but on a good system it's got real texture and 3-dimensionality to it.  The track has also got a great rhythm to it - a good system should sound effortless and groovy :-)

Some of my other favourites include Kate Bush's Among Angels (50 words for snow) - listen to the swirling timbre of the piano in the opening 30s... and From Let Us Garlands Brin, Op.18 (24bit 192kHz) off of the 2L Audiophile Reference Recordings - breathtaking.

But I could go on... honestly I have so many... (did I mention Dave Brubeck at Carnegie Hall?  Listen to Paul Desmond's sax on Time Out... lovely... and if you're system is good enough you'll hear a lady sneezing in the audience :-))


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Some of the Ip Man tracks have thundering powerful bass, which showed up the HD250 Linear II bass as being too excessive, especially after its pleather pads have some wear and seal even better than when brand new. Boomy bass is why I gave up on box speakers and tried near-field open baffle with a decent woofer, which gave much more precise and open bass response. Many hi-fi headphones are also mediocre in the bass; too much emphasis or congestion as you say. Even conventional open headphones enclose the ear somewhat and this will inevitably permit audible bass reflections, which is one reason I abandoned investing money in such designs.
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Originally posted by WigglyWoo WigglyWoo wrote:

I've been using Daft Punk's Touch (from Random Access Memories) - to a lesser system the opening can sound like an awful hash of electronic noise but with a good system it really opens out and you can hear into the music in a way which is quite beguiling - try the first 3mins before the music gets going... 

Another track off this album I enjoy as a test track is Giorgio by Moroder, both because I like to hear how realistic his voice sounds during the opening narration and then (don't judge!) the sound of the click he describes :-)  On a lesser system it sounds flat but on a good system it's got real texture and 3-dimensionality to it.  The track has also got a great rhythm to it - a good system should sound effortless and groovy :-)

Some of my other favourites include Kate Bush's Among Angels (50 words for snow) - listen to the swirling timbre of the piano in the opening 30s... and From Let Us Garlands Brin, Op.18 (24bit 192kHz) off of the 2L Audiophile Reference Recordings - breathtaking.

But I could go on... honestly I have so many... (did I mention Dave Brubeck at Carnegie Hall?  Listen to Paul Desmond's sax on Time Out... lovely... and if you're system is good enough you'll hear a lady sneezing in the audience :-))


I may have to give some of those a listen... I have heard Daft Punk's RAM but not on a system to analyze the sound. Sadly I have never been a huge fan of funk, although that could be worthy of further studying.

Also can someone please tell me what I have missed with Kate Bush? I think I have heard one of her songs before (Wuthering Heights perhaps?) but I didn't "get it". Is there any other essential listening so I can give her a fair chance?

I love those micro details in live performances!
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Originally posted by Ash Ash wrote:

Some of the Ip Man tracks have thundering powerful bass, which showed up the HD250 Linear II bass as being too excessive, especially after its pleather pads have some wear and seal even better than when brand new. Boomy bass is why I gave up on box speakers and tried near-field open baffle with a decent woofer, which gave much more precise and open bass response. Many hi-fi headphones are also mediocre in the bass; too much emphasis or congestion as you say. Even conventional open headphones enclose the ear somewhat and this will inevitably permit audible bass reflections, which is one reason I abandoned investing money in such designs.
I understand that and always preferred a similar sound with my speakers as well. Perhaps that is why I enjoyed my K701 and ER4P; "anemic bass" doesn't bother me as long as I can hear the texture as I prefer that cohesive sound. Boomy or overly powerful bass is annoying, although I still like my bass head music on occasion (Propellerheads - Ron's Theory is a recent rediscovery from my collection which has a nice LF punch, or Fatboy Slim - Punk to Funk has always been fun). As long a bass drum has enough presence to sound real, we have a winner.
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