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Correcting Michael Fremer

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Graham Slee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 2019 at 8:35pm
The whole point about a patent is that it has never ever been discussed before.
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Indeed a Government body consults technical experts who agree that an invention is new and significant enough to assign IP rights. That trumps Michael Fremer's science-intolerance even if I generally enjoy his articles.
 
Sorry I missed the original thread Graham and everyone who took part. It is probably for the best as it would have contained my quite frank expressions of disappointment over Fremer's knowledge after reading his review just now. He does get the important bit about the great sound right at the end I suppose. I agreed with him on that bit and like Joe I would have liked MF to have elaborated on what he heard and found so agreeable.
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Originally posted by morris_minor morris_minor wrote:

I read that review and could only imagine Graham's er, "disappointment" at it. The ironic thing is Fremer has always struck me as a "subjectivist" rather than an "objectivist". Hang the measurements, what does it sound like? So to go off on a rant at technicalities - that he obviously doesn't understand - doesn't seem true to form. Admittedly his conclusion was a sound one, but how many readers had he lost on the way? 

I saw the extremely positive title of the Fremer-review for Accession and thought to myself: "Yes! Finally he reviewed Accession and apparently he loved it", and then I eagerly started reading the review. 

Immediately I got puzzled because of all the talk about technical stuff, but I'm so used to reviews containing technical info I don't particularly care about that I just scrolled down to the bottom of the page and clicked on page 2. There I was happy to see that "the real review" began.

I'm guessing a lot of readers are too curious and intrigued by the extremely positive title of the review to quit reading just because of all the technical stuff in the intro. They probably do what I did Smile

EDIT: Made the last paragraph easier to read/understand (English is not my main language!)


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Being an Accession M owner for some time, when I read its review by Michael Fremer on Analog Planet I 'hit the roof'.
 
I vented my frustrations in a response which I posted on this forum but it was removed by a moderator. I completely understand why that action was taken and in all fairness I will say it was rather juvenile in its aggressively anti-Fremer view. So removal was only fair and right. I apologise for not taking a step back and really thinking about the style of my writing.
 
I also apologise to anyone who read the rant and was offended, and to the moderators who have been placed in an unnecessary and time consuming position of responsibility.
 
But, there is a point I would like to make. The core intellectual insights I proposed in my critique of the review by MF are extremely significant and should not be dismissed off-hand.
 
There is a point about the position MF holds and I feel this legitimately entitles the reader to respond to his highly public professional position in the media, if it is felt necessary by anyone who is troubled by his inaccuracies, accusations and relevant omissions.
 
MF has misunderstood and misrepresented the technology, and in my opinion, deliberately omitted significant facts which confirm irrefutable credibility to Graham's brilliant understanding of phono pre-amp technology - the US Patent.
 
In my opinion the review cleverly tarnished the integrity and credibility of Graham Slee.
 
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The best place to air your grievance with what he wrote and how he wrote it would be on the Analog Planet website, that way Michael Fremer would be able to see what you are saying and respond accordingly.

From what I can see, although I mostly agree with your points (and the more reasoned technical response from Graham), these views have only been aired on this forum and MF is not likely to be seeing them anytime soon, so therefore they are wasted
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Originally posted by Suggs Suggs wrote:

The best place to air your grievance with what he wrote and how he wrote it would be on the Analog Planet website, that way Michael Fremer would be able to see what you are saying and respond accordingly.

From what I can see, although I mostly agree with your points (and the more reasoned technical response from Graham), these views have only been aired on this forum and MF is not likely to be seeing them anytime soon, so therefore they are wasted

I found that I was unable to post any comments on the AP Accession review page. 

I am in agreement with your comments, and have emailed Michael Fremer directly this morning with a copy of my edited opinion.  Should any members wish to read this version please PM me and I will send you a copy privately. Smile

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