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    Posted: 02 Aug 2022 at 6:11pm
Ciao, posseggo un Reflex M Graham Slee e voglio ad Accession, pensa che le differenze sonore sono tali dare il prezzo? Ho una testina Ortofon Quintet Black, forse per apprezzare un cambio di qualità potrei passare a
una Cadenza Black? Cosa ne pensate?
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Sorry Vincenzo but could you put this post into English.Thumbs Up
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Here's the post through Google Translate:

Hello, I own a Reflex M Graham Slee and I want to Accession, do you think that the sound differences are such give the price? I have an Ortofon Quintet Black head, maybe to appreciate a change in quality I could switch to
a Cadenza Black? What do you think?

If I understand correctly, Vincenzo wants to know whether it would be best to get the Accession, or keep his current preamp and upgrade his cartridge to an Ortofon Cadenza Black.

I can't really answer this question, but I know that the Accession MC model is highly praised by those who use MC carts. Myself - I only only use high output, MM or MI cartridges.

Now, I have heard the Cadenza Black once in someone else's system. It sounded good and very detailed. The guy that had it since upgraded his cartridge to a very expensive Lyra model. I have never heard the Quintet carts so no personal opinion on them. Obviously the Cadenza range is higher in the Ortofon Hierarchy and more expensive.

I think it would be best for OP to trial the Accession MC through the loaner program. That would give Vincenzo the answer. They can decide from there whether to keep things as is or upgrade the phono preamp.

To me personally, cartridges are consumable items (they wear out, they come and go) and other equipment tends to stay in the system a lot longer. At 500-800 hours the expensive cartridge styli will be worn like any other cartridge. At that point you'll have to trade in, get a rebuild through the manufacturer, or send the cart to a third party retipping specialist.

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Edited by patientot - 02 Aug 2022 at 7:50pm
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Ciao, ho fatto la mia scelta, non so se è giusta o sbagliata, ho comprato una DYNAVECTOR DV XX2 MKII, volevo cambiarla ha un suono Ortofon e volevo capire come suonano le altre testine. Quindi tengo il mio preamplificatore fono e vedo cosa succede.
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Hello, I made my choice, I don't know if it is right or wrong, I bought a DYNAVECTOR DV XX2 MKII, I wanted to change it has an Ortofon sound and I wanted to understand how other cartridges sound. So I keep my phono preamp and see what happens.
Amp. MF M6si,Cd player MF M6scd, TT Project 2Xperience SB, Cartridges Ortofon Quintet black S, Reflex M, Elevator EXP.
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Originally posted by Vincenzo Vincenzo wrote:

Hello, I made my choice, I don't know if it is right or wrong, I bought a DYNAVECTOR DV XX2 MKII, I wanted to change it has an Ortofon sound and I wanted to understand how other cartridges sound. So I keep my phono preamp and see what happens.


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Hello, in the data of the DYNAVECTOR DV XX2 MKII I cannot see how much the value of the lateral tracking force is.

Edited by Vincenzo - 08 Aug 2022 at 6:04pm
Amp. MF M6si,Cd player MF M6scd, TT Project 2Xperience SB, Cartridges Ortofon Quintet black S, Reflex M, Elevator EXP.
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