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Fatmangolf
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Well, I am relieved I got my SL1210 mark2's original P2S right at 215mm but apologise for not realising the mark 1 was 200mm.
Andrew is right. There is a delight in aligning your cartridge (probably not the 1st or 2nd time) and enjoying the sound that results from it being just right. Or near enough! I've printed CH arc protractors on several decks and arms (so less experience than many here) and found them easy to use with consistently good results. I even worked out how to paste one accurately onto a duff LP that a screwed onto the base of my Clearaudio protractor. |
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Jon
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Paul H
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Yes, I appreciate that it's all about finding a "preferred compromise". I printed out a template (it printed exactly to size) and haven't had time to look at this in detail, but on first attempt I was interested to see that, while the stylus didn't follow the printed arc (it drifted out by a few mm) it did appear to arrive safely at each null point. That may have been because I hadn't lined it up accurately enough with the pivot but, assuming that I do get that alignment correct, do I need the stylus to line up with all points on the arc or with just one or both of the null points?
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Drewan77
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You mention lining up with the pivot but with an arc protractor this isn't necessary. Once you hit the arc at all points, the overhang is set automatically & you didn't have to rely on eyesight to the pivot point. I apologise if I am repeating something you already know but the correct procedure is to move the protractor under the stylus at the outer edge of the arc , then the cartridge in the headshell near the inner edge (spindle) of the arc. i.e... 1. 'Rough-in' the cartridge in the headshell slots & move the protractor until the stylus lines up with it near the outer edge. 2. Then make sure the platter/protractor doesn't move & swing the arm near the spindle. See how much the stylus deviates from the arc & move the cartridge slightly by about half that amount. 3. Now swing the arm back to the outside, rotate the protractor until the stylus hits the arc as in 1. & keep repeating 1. & 2. until it hits the line exactly. This may require several repeats until 'perfect' & also check again after twisting for offset at the null points in case the stylus has drifted from the arc. I use the mirrored 'Mr Yip - Mint' arc protractor with a line much thinner than the printed one & hitting the arc exactly pays dividends. Very high magnification (~20x or 30x) & strong, evenly distributed light helps greatly. Alignment will be absolutely correct when the stylus completely follows the arc AND lines up at the two null points as well. As Graham mentioned, a lot of 'faffing' but very rewarding when you listen to the result
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Fatmangolf
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I find one of these (.Maplin linen tester) very helpful and also use a torch pointed across the platter
Edited by Fatmangolf - 12 Aug 2016 at 9:46pm |
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Paul H
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Andrew, that's a fabulous post and very enlightening. The wonderful thing about the internet is that it's full of people telling you what to use, but very little actual explaination of how. I had assumed that the correct method was to roughly align the protractor with the pivot (there's a line drawn on Hoffman's protractor that points to the pivot, so I assumed that was its purpose) and then carry out the adjustments you mention.
So thank you for taking the time to spell it out.
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Although it won't noticeably affect the accuracy of your overhang setting I find it easier to put an old/spare LP on the platter first then the paper arc protractor on top of that.
I use small pieces of blu-tac to stop the platter rotating during alignment and a coin or similar small weight to anchor the arc protractor once it is at the right angle (Andrew's description for this is spot on IMO). Then I know the paper won't move whilst the cartridge is being wriggled and lowered onto it repeatedly. |
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Jon
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